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edit & update: i have changed my image hosting to Amazon S3, which is working out great so far. i decided to put my whining about Flickr to rest, after hearing many compelling arguments for the privacy / pinterest issue from Flickr users and bloggers alike.

here are some of my most recent pics from instagram. since opening up the app to android users millions of more people have joined in on the fun – so if you’re on instagram now follow me with my username¬†miss_moss or check out all my instagram pics here. here are some things i’ve been doing lately…

been settling into my new place, which means procuring new pieces of furniture (a slow and budget wary process) including my new couch – which is now boasting some warm textures, ready for winter. also hanging up a few pictures, sunning myself on the balcony with pink drinks and trying not to kill my beautiful succulents (seen above)

i’m lucky enough to live just down the road from the south african national gallery, which means i can pop in there whenever i wish and check out the exhibitions. there are some interesting ones at the mo, listening to distant thunder by peter clarke is a notable one… but i have to admit i was more taken with the wild geese and their babies hanging out on the lawn outside.

Peter Clarke

Goslings!

i visited the Woodstock Foundry, which is an amazing space on Albert Road in Woodstock that houses such gems as the The Lobby hair shop – also known as the place where i got the best hair cut of my life (need a cut? Craig will sort you out – that goes for boys & girls). also dropped in on my pal Andrew’s place Selah, who is working on some amazing pieces at the mo – note the hanging plant from Opus in the foreground (also located in The Foundry).

The Lobby

Selah, hanging plant by Opus.

we went to sutherland in the karoo for easter weekend, it rained which is always amazing to see in the desert.

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  1. The flickr move is unfortunate for this usage, but it is something a lot of other flickr users wanted. the problem is that pinterest copies the image. It is pretty frustratring as a an amateur photographer to have photo copied to another site, no attribution (not everybody is as scrupulous as you!), and comments and pins and likes, feedback on another site of which the photographer is not aware. And then somebody uses the photo and uses as reference “pinterest”. Really frustrating when you got image “all rights reserved”. and might even have been able to make a little, very little, money from it.

    Pinterest is an interesting limbo of copyright , their terms of use protect their ass by assuming that what you pin is your own content to which you own the rights and you are giving pinterest the right to make copies. But then they contradict themselves

    http://techcrunch.com/2012/03/20/copyright-issues-could-spur-changes-to-pinterests-terms-of-use-and-pin-etiquette/

    • yes i appreciate that, and i’m not going to argue with anyone about the fact that they may or may not want their content on Pinterest – but the problem is that Flickr never gave anyone the choice. i have heard about many people who have their own photos on Flickr, who make them private so that Flickr users can’t see them, but share select photos on their blogs – which they want to be pinnable. Now that isn’t even an option.

      also as far as i understand it Pinterest has made changes to their terms of service since that article you linked to.

  2. miss moss, beautiful couch. can you tell me who the designer is? love the color play of fabrics, and the pillows too. what a lovely abode !

  3. Diana- My husband Mark runs and hosts the online artist website builder schmolio.com .
    He uses Amazon for hosting all of the artists’ images remotely so he doesn’t have to host them all on his server, which would fill much too quickly. That might be a good, affordable option for you. You can contact him through schmolio if you want to ask him any questions about his experience.
    I went to pin the recipes from yesterday’s post and was dismayed to find out they weren’t pin-able. Good luck coming up with a workable solution!
    Amy

  4. Sorry to argue, but just pointing out Flickr users can still allow for their own contents to be pinned. By having it public and not reserving all copyrights.

    I think Flickr was just not the right image hosting site for your purposes – which was sort of predictable because they never really wanted to be a contents hosting site. In their terms of use, or at least last time I checked which was years ago and apparently ToU are changing frequently you were supposed to own the material you uploaded to Flickr and linking of just images was prohibited, commercial uses frowned upon. I think they are geared towards people hosting their own photos.

    I think this problem is a sign of a larger problem, with the pinterest concept. Pinterest copies photos. But people pin photos which do not belong to them. Brands are fine with that. Individual contents creators might not be. This was not huge while pinterest was so small and beta, now it is getting so huge, well it is going to be interesting. But I do think Flickr did the right choice for their photographers. Who can still share using some sort of creative commons. Which of course you should apply to contents not yours but issue might be that maybe you should not have been uploading it to Flickr anyway. Not sure, as I said not have read ToU since I joined many years old skool ago.

    • no need to apologise, i don’t see your comments as argumentative – and i do understand your point.

      i use flickr for my own public photos too – which is why i have a pro account in the first place. i ended up using it for blogging as a last resort, because my (south african) web hosting wasn’t up to scratch. i should have switched to international hosting LONG ago – but it costs money, and so years passed without a glitch in that department. technically i could still host my blog pics there, but this whole pinterest / privacy thing has made me think twice.

      also let me just clarify – NONE of my blog images are public on flickr. you cannot possibly find them on flickr, only i can access them.

      so my main point, as i said, is that there SHOULD be a choice. many people who use flickr for their own photos that they own (just one example – people who have personal style blogs) want their private images to be pinnable. it’s as simple as that. i pay for the service, so i guess i expected that there would at the very least be some kind of notification.

      pinterest is now the third most popular social network in the US after facebook and twitter – that’s nuts! and a HUGE market to be shut out of.

  5. Hi, I found your blog by googling about this pinterest/flickr stuff. I wanted to let you know that there’s a way to get around it if you’re ok with your photos being public. Have you seen this thread: http://www.flickr.com/help/forum/en-us/72157629431682041/page2/#reply72157629475115452

    I had done all the recommended items but I still wasn’t able to pin. I then went in and RE-set them to public by batch editing and now it works (i think!). I hope this helps.

    • hi jamie, thanks for the comment.

      i’m aware that public photos are still pinnable, my problem is that (a) my blog images are not mine, so i don’t want Flickr users to get the wrong idea and (b) – most importantly – i have literally thousands of photos in my posts that, if i were to change them to pubic, i would have to edit the links to each and every single one to have them show up on the blog.

      crazy.

  6. replying again,

    and just a double check, try going to your flickr settings and see if you have the option to allow others to share your photos. if you got it opted yes, give it a few others and try again

    http://www.flickr.com/help/forum/en-us/72157629431682041/page2/#reply72157629839244845

    Maybe it was a bug. Are you really sure it is about photos being marked private? Might be this issue instead.

    I am not sure it makes any difference to have photos of not your own creation marked private. you are sharing them with the rest of the world in the blog, it seems almost desingenuous about just hiding them from flickr community. You can put attribution on photo description. Though i do agree it would be very very wrong to concede any kind of creative commons license for photos not your own.

    About pinterest, oh, things are getting interesting. It might be the third biggest whatever, but keep in mind much bigger things (napster for example) have fallen due to copyright issues. And pinterest getting so big, who actually profits from that? Pinterest itself? How are they going to monetize it? I can see brands for sure being interested in promotion, but what makes pinterest interesting is that it is not just that. And for a lot of small contents creators, pinterest can seem like a leech. It might be an interesting promo tool but not everybody has a brand or thing to promote and anyway almost all people pinning are louzy at attribution, up to a point where one thinks of pinterest, one does not think of correctly attributed images (See pinterest bingo cards for example !). For people like me, a photo being pinned is useless, I get no interaction or feedback from it and a photo becoming popular can even harm its chances of selling those rights for publication since it will loose “originality” and make a few dollars for my lens fund. I think flickr did the right thing!

  7. I used to use flickr to host blog images as well, but it’s actually against their rules to do that and I received an email from them about it – I had no idea! You always have to link back to the flickr page if an image is embedded elsewhere. I just upgraded my server which wasn’t that expensive at all – a couple bucks a month (I use 1&1), but you post way more photos than I do. I started using imageshack for that brief tumblr exploration of mine (ha) and it was only $30 a year for unlimited use, I think? It was brief so I can’t vouch too much for them. But that doesn’t help your situation of moving older images from flickr to elsewhere, which sounds like a headache!

    Also I love that cactus second from the left – I’ve never seen one like that, it’s so great, like a cactus tree.

    • Mette – i really appreciate your comment! i’m in two minds about Pinterest – on the one hand i DO get a lot of traffic from the site, and i also discover a lot of cool work & blogs via Pinterest… but i also understand all your points you’re making re: correct attribution, etc. unfortunately that also happens on Tumblr. i actually think tumblr is even WORSE than Pinterest because millions of pics never get credited, and just get reblogged and reblogged ad nauseum.

      Kate – yeah i think ultimately i need to move away from flickr for hosting, regardless of the Pinterest issue. I’m going to have to switch to US hosting soon, you won’t believe how much cheaper it is in comparison to SA hosting (and internet in general). That cactus / succulent used to be one big “umbrella” cactus, then the top bit died and all these tiny umbrella heads came out in its place. it’s SUPER weird looking! but also awesome.

  8. Since i redesigned my blog this winter I switched from hosting on flickr (which I think still is agains the ToU) to hosting them myself because flickr wasn’t an option with the layout I wanted.

    This means that I have become more conscious about not filling up my server space too quickly and when my archive grows, what this will cost. But so far it has not been a problem at the hosting I have is cheap (the service is called unoeuro but I don’t know if they are available everywhere)

    But I have chosen to make my images non-pin’able anyway. I did this back when there was all the trouble with Pinterest’s ToS but kept it on, since you are still responsible for the pins you make even if Pinterest can’t sell them anymore. I don’t really have a huge problem with this regarding my own photos, but even though my photos used to be pinned alot it did not drive any trafic to the blog or lead to any interactions from people.

    The main reason why I still have a the no-pin-code on my blog, is that I felt uncomfortable when people pinned other peoples photos that I had blogged about. Say I did a blogpost about the an illustrator and posted with permission her illustrations, when the image was pinned the automatic credit would be to me, people would sometimes mistakenly write that I did the illustration and only once or twice did the actual creator of the content get mentioned – and still with no link to their site, but to mine.

    Well all this rant just to say that I found it problematic to let people pin other peoples work from my blog. While I had gotten the permission to use it, they had not been asked whether it could be pinned.

    Just a little thought -I hope you find the right hosting solution! Hosting is getting so cheap these days, but it is still a cost and blogging sure ain’t free :)

  9. when i first read “wild geese and their babies hanging out on the lawn outside”, I thought you were referring to a painting in the National Gallery…

    when can i come visit? this weekend maybe? hmmmm?

  10. Lois Pearson says

    Miss Moss I love your Field Guide Typestasches! Beards and ‘taches are a weakness. Please could you tell me where I could get the same? Your blog is inspiring and I trust you find the best path to move it forward away from all these technical issues.

  11. Won’t get into the flickr issue in this comment…

    Since you switched the focus to Instagram and shared some of your lovely photos, I thought I might mention a new website that a few of my friends are starting where your Instagram pictures upload automatically and you can order “rolls” (12 prints per “roll”) of your pictures! I honestly am not affiliated with them; I’m just proud of them for developing a simple & really great idea and it seems like something you’d be interested in.

    The website will be very simple and they mail your prints in simple, pretty packaging… it’s getting so big that they are now going to offer international shipping as well!

    Here’s a link to their Kickstarter… if you like the idea, please share as they are still very much in the spread-the-word phase. It also has a pretty neat stop-motion video to illustrate how the website will work. :)

    http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/snapstagram/snapstagram-just-prints

  12. I also live in the desert. Broken Hill, New South Wales, Australia. We had unseasonal rain last year and the wild flowers that grew were simply stunning and amazing. I was constantly awed by the beauty that such an arid environment normally, was able to produce.

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  14. Its like you read my mind! You appear to know so much about this, like you wrote the book in it or something.

    I think that you could do with a few pics to
    drive the message home a bit, but instead of that, this is wonderful blog.
    An excellent read. I’ll certainly be back.

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